Thread: Grima Wormtongue
And yet people still think Gollum should have been cured? Grima was poisoned by Saruman just as King Theoden. He saw his folly only after Saruman fell. Yes he was a traitor and a traitor should be punished, but i think seeing Saruman fall coupled with the way Saruman treated him was punishment enough.
ok, well let's say that you were Grima, just supposing. How would you want to be treated? I personally believe everyone deserves a second chance, especially after seeing how wrong they were.
Grima got what he deserved for betraying his king and Rohan. He was given a chance to return to Rohan by Gandalf but refused. His fear defeated him and he was Saruman's shadow. He had no will of his own.I am not fond of Grima for the way he crept after Eowyn and weakened Theoden. I cannot feel sorry for him. Smeagol I pity.
ok well, didn't he change? at the very end of the third book he was going to stay and then killed Saruman. The Hobbits acted immediately to an act that actually saved them from further trouble. Yes he was wrong and i am not disputing that but i think that after seeing Saruman fall and then Saruman treat him so bad, well, there are limits to what a person should have to endure, no matter how bad. Soora, the pity you feel for Gollum, well, i feel the same for poor Grima.
I see your point my friend. Well, for myself, I wouldn't trust him right away but i would allow him to work his way back up through hard work, honest labor and such. I'm not fool enough to trust him straight away. But i would let him redeem himself. My apologies for not clarifying.
Again a fine point! It shames me to have been so blind, a child could see your arguments as valid. I remove my hat to you sir!